A WordPress plugin for social texts in social contexts
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Michael
Wow, that’s impressive. Just what I was looking for.
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[As far as we can tell, this makes it compatible with Web Content Accessibility Guidelines.]
Esta bien interesante!!!
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Bug reports (86 comments)
I tried this theme on my test site. It seems to work fine in Firefox but I get a javascript void error in IE.
This should be resolved in version 1.1
I’ve run into this same issue. It would appear to be something that shows up in Commentpress when you have WP2.3 installed. I was able to successfully use CP with both WP versions 2.1 and 2.2.3.
A look at my htttpd error log seems to indicate that CP causes some sort of unrecoverable error. Example:
[Thu Sep 27 10:56:34 2007] [notice] child pid 1596 exit signal Illegal instruction (4)
I’ve received the same issue on both Mac OSX and Solaris. I’ve tried it both with Apache 1.33 and Apache2, and PHP4 and 5.
This really does seem to be some incompatibility between WP2.3 and CP1.4.
Thanks!
Is something like captcha or recaptcha in the development plan, or has added this themselves? Our sys admin wonders if there is a way to integrate challenge-response into Commentpress to avoid automated spamming.
I’m new to Commentpress and just a week old on the edublogs site.
I’d love to use Commentpress for my English class homepage/blog, but…
The “read/write comments” bubbles do not seem to function on my site. I click and nothing happens–my fault?
We look forward to seeing developments in the future.
On the floating overview list, the “Paragraph X” list seems both repetitive, and rather thin on information. Am wondering if it might be more helpful to instead have a heading “Paragraphs” followed by a numbered list that includes the first line of each paragraph?
eddie@futureofthebook.org is a bouncing address.
Anyway: when will Commentpress be accessible without JavaScript? It’s not possible to use this without failing accessibility guidelines at present, which is a shame for a good tool. If it’s not planned yet, can you outline what changes you think would be needed?
Hi there
Is Commentpress dead? Any news of updates to theme welcome!
Best wishes
Jon
I should add if anyone can drop the code or where to find it to make compatible with 2.8.4 pls do.
Hi, I’m using Commentpress 3.1 on my multisite WordPress site v 3.0.1. We’re having a problem with Safari users who are logged in. When they click to “comment on this page” (or paragraph), it just reloads the page but the comment form does not appear. It works fine in Safari for registered users, but we need for everyone to be able to comment on the site. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
The site is at https://blogs.hastac.org/duke/makn
A little more info: we SOMETIMES have the above issue with Firefox and IE as well.
@MJ: It has been ever since version 3.1. The latest version (3.2) adds full compatibility with the WCAG 2.0 guidelines. Caveat: that’s as far as we call tell without a professional audit.
Er, no. Please check back for version 3.2 – out today.
Commentpress 3.2 now requires WordPress 3.0.1.
There is a problem adding comments. I’m using WordPress 3.04. I enter the first comment, say on paragraph 3, and all is well. Then, when I go to enter a second comment, be it on paragraph 3 or any other, it won’t do it in the sidebar — the mouse never changes to allow text entry. However, if I toggle to full page, it will allow typing. Weird, I know, but there you go. I’m running Chrome, if that helps.
Thanks for the report Rob, will investigate
Automatic installation only installs ‘readme.txt’, error in header is the error message.
Hi Martin – Are you trying to install Commentpress from the WordPress plugins repository? That won’t work. Please download the plugin and theme from this site instead.
Hi guys,
loving commentpress – thanks for all the hard work!
is there any way to use a child theme of CP and still get the commentpress options? i can understand that its not possible to support other themes, but it seems counter-intuative not to support child themes, as it means i have to hack the commentpress theme itself to make any changes.
any suggestions on how i can get round this?
thanks 🙂
I also have a problem adding comments, though it’s somewhat different — I just can’t. I’m using WP mu 3.4, and when I try to add a comment, the “adding a comment” animated bar just keeps going and nothing gets added. (I’m having the same problem with digress.it, FWIW.)
Meant to add: I’m experiencing the same problems in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari on a Mac. And the problem is only with my own installation (https://quote.ucsd.edu/bakovic/), not with others (such as this one, obviously, since I can leave comments).
Thank you for discovering a bug in Commentpress – it’s never been tested in https environments before and you revealed a weakness in how the AJAX commenting plugin was loading scripts. I’ve updated the plugin on GitHub.
WP 3.4.1. Multisite ->sub-blog1) When I try to reactivate ‘Display Header Text’ under Theme->customize->’Site Title and Tagline’ the title and tagline don’t reappear.2)Additionally: Regardless of what I check/uncheck/choose for options. The table of Contents page only displays TOC and nothing else.This is a fresh install.Any suggestions welcome.
I’ve posted an update to the theme on GitHub which solves this for me. Thanks for alerting me to the issue.
Hi Christian, The fix works a treat for the title/tagline. they are visible again.You can see the Table of Contents issue @ http://journey.faithworks.eu/table-of-contents/One other issue now,I hide page title.I have added centered h1 tags+text instead for headings.They have all aligned left since the update.I tried deleting and recreating but they insist on going left.The HTML seems ok to me and in edit mode they are centered. Thanks for an awesome theme : )
Hi Christian, I don’t know if this is a bug or a user error. But when I try to activate Commentpress for BuddyPress I get “fatal error BP Groupblog must installed”, although it is installed. I have tried Network activation/local activation etc. WP 3.4.1/ BP 1.5.6/ BP for CP 1.0/BP Groupblog 1.7.1
Hi Christian, I noticed that the commentpress plugin fails (on the user end) with a fatal error when you use Rich text editing in conjunction with German as the default site language.
Thanks for the report, Peter – I’ll look into it.
Commentpress for BuddyPress is deprecated now. Please use Commentpress for Multisite instead.
This seems to be a bug in WordPress core. If you add the following line just before line 548 of ‘wp-includes/js/tinymce/langs/wp-langs.php’, everything works as expected:
if ( ! class_exists( '_WP_Editors' ) ) { require( ABSPATH . WPINC . '/class-wp-editor.php' ); }I’ll file a bug report on WordPress Trac. Thanks!
Bug report filed here. Patch attached, which fixes the problem.
Hi, I’m trying to use CommentPress in several classes I’m teaching at Duke University. This past year I used it and it was a marvelous tool for writing-intensive work. But the University has just updated to WordPress 3.3.2 and CommentPress no longer works–paragraphs no longer have a “comment” icon to their left. This is true using the previous and current versions of CommentPress (as of 8/31/2012). I realize this might well be a result of the integration of WordPress at Duke with our NetID (Shibboleth) authentication system. But I thought I’d ask if you know of version incompatibilities between the current version of CommentPress and WordPress 3.3.2?
Replied offlist
HiThis is exactly what our writing group is needing.I have it on the test site and for the most part it is working ok.It is a multisite and is running WP 3.5.I think I first activated it as a network but then changed it to a site activation.It is using the built in menu and dosen’t seem to use the built in WP menus. This is ok I guess but not ideal.The problem is on the built in menu the home page button takes you back to the root web-sitei instead of the sub website. Of course I don’t have CP installed on the root website so it just goes to a blank screen..Can I edit a php file to fix this or can I get CP to use the WP menu system? Thanks
We’re trying to install CommentPress 3.4.8 on a WordPress 3.4.2 server (multisite-enabled) and have run into problems.
When the plugin & theme are activated on a blog, the CommentPress UI shows up as expected. However, clicking on the add comment icon next to any post gives us a blank comment tab on the right, and the following javascript error:
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method ‘split’ of undefined
[snip code]
Any/all help would be appreciated. Can’t give you the URL of the actual box as it’s an internal dev server.
Replied to you by email, Mike.
How does CommentPress deal with Revisions? I change lots and have a huge revision history. Are annotations stored/moved/lost/fully accounted for version-by-version/altogether somewhere or…. ? Otherwise, lovely tool.
CommentPress ignores revisions, since it was primarily built as a tool for commenting on static texts, for example digital copies of already-published books.
Revising the text too much will “orphan” the comments and make them appear under the page- or post-level comments section, though they can be reassigned to paragraphs by dragging their “Move” button to the appropriate paragraph.
Applying comments to particular revisions would be possible, but I’ve not given it much thought so far since I imagine it to be a complex feature to implement.
I installed the plugin but something is off. Could be the theme not loading completely, or a CSS issue. Digress.it ran ok, but I rather go with your project. Can you help?.
Fixed it. Apparently theme was not copied to appropriate folder. I copied it manually. All OK now.
Glad to hear it’s fixed, José, but odd that any themes needed copying anywhere, since CommentPress defines its own themes directory. What exactly did you need to do? Which version of WordPress are you using? Anything special about your setup?
Hi!
We’ve got commentpress 3.5 installed, but we’re getting a funny error with some of our users. Seems to happen if, while entering a comment, the paragraph in question gets scrolled out of frame -get an ajax error, ‘Cannot call method ‘toSTring’ of undefined
but other times not. See
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTun6S7CYAMc0bC.png
also get error, ‘a is undefined’
Hello,
I am getting fatal PHP errors when I try to use the commentpress-core themes:
PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function bp_get_blogs_root_slug() in …/wp-content/plugins/commentpress-core/themes/commentpress-modern/assets/templates/navigation.php on line 140
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PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function bp_get_blogs_root_slug() in …/wp-content/plugins/commentpress-core/themes/commentpress-theme/assets/templates/user_links.php on line 65
The plugins I am using are: CommentPress-core, Commons in a Box, All in One WP Security, Jetpack, and Akismet. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling CommentPress but with no luck. I have not modified anything in the plugin files.
Do you know why this might be happening?
Thanks
Hi Mike, sounds like something is amiss with your BuddyPress installation. Do you have blog signups enabled? Do you have any BuddyPress components disabled?
Could you please integrate this plugin annotatorjs.org? It will enhance CommentPress with the wonderful function of commenting on selected words!
Interesting, thanks for pointing me to it.
And this plugin (under GPLv2) is also very powerful, it can track changes like Microsoft Word. But it is based on CKEditor, I’m not sure if it can be integrated with CommentPress.
Thanks again – though I’m not clear how that would enhance CommentPress. What advantages do you see in it?
Hi – have noticed that the sidebars do not scroll in Chrome for us, although they are working fine here. Fine for us in Firefox and IE.
Thanks for the report. I’m following up on this via email.
Not a bug . . . more of a feature request . . . actually, more of a request that you develop something like a CommentPress option for a wiki that would provide a platform for collaborative develpment of point — counterpoint type articles. The main article (left column) would contain the position, arguments, and evidence for Position A. The left side column would be for counterpoint arguments . . . mostly short responses with links to other articles that would more systematically present the opposing view.
I was even thinking of raising money to hire a developer to create this plugin, as I have some great applications for it. A more complete description of what I have in mind is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117368
Besides the platform (a collaborative wiki rather than a blog), what makes my proposal distinctly different from is that rather than have a running list of comments from numerous contributors (as you currently have it, which is very cool), the wiki version would enable collaborating editors to edit and refine the counterpoint argument and modify the links to the more complete responses to each point.
As I indicated, if this is within your coding skill set, I would even consider trying to raise money to fund development of plugin that could be used in a wiki environment.
Hi Dave, sounds like a good idea. Good luck with the project!
Hi,
Thank you very much for this great plugin.
I need to customize the comment form with several additionnal fields. I installed the “WP advanced comment” plugin for this. But it doesn’t work with Commentpress core.
Do you know why and how I could customize the comment form (with new fields, flag option, likes, etc.)
Thanks for your help !
CommentPress predates the comment_form() function, which I suspect is what the plugin you want to use hooks into. Upgrading CommentPress to use comment_form() is not trivial, I’m afraid.
What you could do, however, is create a child theme and override the CommentPress comment form template with your own version that is compatible with WP Advanced Comment.
Alternatively, there are a number of hooks in the stock CommentPress comment form that you could use to inject extra fields. Have a look at the ‘comment_form.php’ template for details.
I am trying to ‘publish’ an interactive book using CommentPress. Since I am learning while doing, chapter 8 is the one chapter formated properly. But I do not see consistent paragraph marks, nor does the number of paragraphs for comments seem to correspond to the actual number of paragraphs in the document. It could be that I am doind something wrong. If so, I haven’t figured out what it is.
SOLVED!
When I replace <p class=”Standard”> ….</p>
with:
<p><span class = “Standard”>….</span></p>
it works. Odd, isn’t it?
Thanks for reporting your workaround, Ralph. Adding custom classes to paragraphs or other top-level tags isn’t supported by CommentPress. Adding tags inside – as you have done – is fine.
I am using a CommentPress child-theme/child-template. In the stylesheet I define a style .standard {…..; text-align:justify;…}
It justifies when I use it as <p class=”standard”>, but then the commenting doesn’t work. For the commenting to work, I use <p><span class=”standard”>, but then it doesn’t justify. It would be really neat if I could both justify and comment on a paragraph.
Hi Ralph – if you use the built-in “Justify” button in TinyMCE, then your text should be both justified and commentable. The underlying code is:
<p style="text-align: justify;"></p>Cheers, Christian
Hi Ralph – you can see the result applying the standard theme unit tests against CommentPress on this test site. The tests are those for theme authors to see all the built-in formatting possibilities and make sure the theme accommodates them. The paragraph justification page can be found by following this link.
Thanks Christian, I got a bit confused by the format tags you can see, and those you can’t. I am used to handcrafting my style-sheets. My tinyMCE editor does not seem to have a ‘Justify’ button, but using the menu item chain Format>Formats>Align>Justify I could get the desired effect.
The pages now look pretty much as I like them. I am just left with one beef: I don’t seem to be able to modify the vertical paragraph distance. <style> {…;padding-bottom: 0.3in;..} doesn’t seem to do the trick, even if I fortify it with !important. Do you have any helpful suggestions?
Ralph
Ah yes, TinyMCE was tweaked recently. You’ll now find the Justify button if you click the Toolbar Toggle button. It’s in the second row.
Try setting the margin instead:
p.textblock {margin-bottom: 1em;}The above CSS works for me.
I have another little problem that I was unable to solve: The second of the three panel switches obscures the right side of the text body when scrolling. I found its “right:74px;”, but I don’t seem to be able to create a child template for screen.min.css.
Is there something, I can do?
Hi Ralph, you should be able to override anything in the default stylesheet by being more specific in targeting the element in your child theme’s stylesheet. A CSS tutorial will explain the mechanics of specificity to you – it’s a bit complex to explain in a comment reply.
Out of interest, what is your issue with the button overlapping the text? There should be plenty of screen space where it doesn’t do so.
Cheers, Christian
Hi Christian,
The comment button is floating, so when users scroll, it obstructs parts of the rightmost body text. I notice that the comment press website doesn’t display the comment button. How did you get rid of it? Also, where is the CSS tutorial, you are referring to?
Thanks, Ralph
This website currently uses the “Modern” theme supplied with the plugin. I’d still be interested to hear why you think the button in the “Flat” theme is problematic.
I don’t know any particularly good ones, but I’m sure you can search for a relevant tutorial.
Hi Christian,
I solved the button problem in the Flat them by moving them to the right, so the comment button no longer obscures text.
But now I have a real problem: Being obsessive compulsive I W3 validated the html on all 135 pages of my online eBook.After a few minor corrections, they all passed – except two! Both showed the error:
Error: No p element in scope but a p end tag seen.
Both occurred with the first of two captioned illustrations (the only two pages with two illustrations). The source code reads:
<!– cp_caption_start –><span class=”captioned_image alignleft” style=”width: 400px”><span id=”attachment_2888″ class=”wp-caption”><img class=”size-full wp-image-2888″ src=”http://www.stuehlingen.online/Book/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BusColAbs-e1485171019750.png” alt=”Business mix, absolute” width=”400″ height=”282″ /></span><small class=”wp-caption-text”>Figure 8. Absolute commercial pattern of 34 most active merchants.</small></span><!– cp_caption_end –></p>
And it is the unpaired </p> at the end that triggers the error.
In the page editor it looks thus:
[caption id="attachment_2888" align="alignleft" width="400"]<img class=”size-full wp-image-2888″ src=”http://www.stuehlingen.online/Book/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BusColAbs-e1485171019750.png” alt=”Business mix, absolute” width=”400″ height=”282″ /> Figure 8. Absolute commercial pattern of 34 most active merchants.[/caption]
Without a trailing </p>.
In the WP forum they are telling me that the problem must be due to the plugin.
Hi Ralph, can you email me please? I have an idea why this might be happening, but I’d like to see what the editor really shows and how the caption is placed in the flow of the text. Comments are a bit of an unwieldy way to manage this!
Cheers, Christian
Hurray, I found a kludge! On both pages, the image was the first element. When I precede the image with “<p><span></span></p> the error disappears. The display does not change. If, however, I only insert <p></p> it doesn’t help.
Thanks for the workaround and for finding the bug. I can confirm that a captioned image as the first item does indeed break the markup. It is actually a (presumably unintentional) quirk of the WordPress
wp_autop()function that results in this error – so in a sense it’s not the “fault” of CommentPress, but it’s also not the “fault” of WordPress either! Quirks are unavoidable. I will post a fix for this in due course.The scrollbar on the table of contents does not activate until the TOC is clicked. Until the bottom of the table is not visible to the user. Have I got too many items on it? I’ve tried adapting the CSS. No success. I hope you can help. Apart from this, I rate Commentpress very highly.
Hi Peter, which browser are you using when you see this? Do you have a site where I can see the problem for myself? If not, steps to reproduce the problem would be most helpful.
Cheers, Christian
http://www.argonautica4.co.uk is the website where I’m having the problem with the scroll bar on the table of contents. I use Safari but I’ve looked at it in IE and Chrome and it’s the same. Thanks for replying. Peter
Hi Peter, it looks to me as though you have Javascript errors and CSS issues which need clearing up. Once you have done that, I suspect the left hand column will scroll as expected.
Cheers, Christian
Hi, when exporting my commentpress site data to import into another site, it seems the database comment field ‘comment_signature’ is not included in the export. This means that on the new site the comments have lost their links to the correct paragraph. Are you able to fix this? Do you know of a work around? Thanks!
Hi William – please read this support thread for the solution.
Cheers, Christian
Hi,
The comment form only displays on the home page, not on the other pages. So when one clicks on the icon to add a comment on page 2 and after, the form does not open to allow someone to add a comment.
We would like to use CommentPress to co-author a white paper for a grant we received.
Tara Carlisle
You will need to enable comments on the other pages. On the “Edit Page” screen, you may need to tick the “Discussion” box in the “Screen Options” slide-down panel at the top of the page. The box will allow you to enable comments.
(For some time now, WordPress has disabled discussion on pages by default. IIRC it was because for the majority of sites, pages are static, merely informational things. Not so in CommentPress, of course.)
Hi,
I am having difficulty with the right column on my website.
For some reason, instead of having a scroll bar, all of the text is visible and eventually overflows beneath the main column.
Also, the tab buttons in the right column seem like default buttons instead of the nice ones on this website.
Do you have any suggestions for what might cause this or how to solve it?
Cheers
You appear to be using a plugin that is a clone of CommentPress. You should contact the developers directly:
https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/commentarysandbox/
Hi! I’m using the CommentPress Core theme and added a Forum/Discussion section as well to the WordPress site. Unfortunately, using the CommentPress Core theme, within the forums all of the comments are automatically transformed into ALL CAPS which is making them sound a little bit aggressive. Is there any way to fix this?
Thanks,
Madeline
Hi Madeline, which plugin are you using to implement your forums?
Hello, is it normal that the archive of the categories of the blog are only one page (a ten items) ?
Yes, that’s normal. If you have more than that, you’ll find arrows which allow you to navigate to further pages of ten items each.
About CommentPress (86 comments)
there’s a blur here. the standard blog comment is a note to the author or the reading group. the standard book note is a pointer for later reference by that one reader. collaborative texts are interesting to me, but i can’t use this to annotate your blog, because i can’t find it again easily.
1) can’t track comments i left here, a year from now, from another location
2) wouldn’t necessarily be able to find a comment i left here again even if i remembered what i’d said.
this is probably a system service i’m talking about, integrated with any and all web browsers. it would appear on the page itself as a note i made and it would be in a searchable list of notes made in a dedicated — dunno, maybe “travel diary” interface.
anyway my ideal would be to have clicked that talk bubble over there and have that make this note (with a public/private checkbox?) which then automatically registered — no — i’m talking about two different systems. comments for discussion, and a maybe a pencil icon for personal note. well anyhow the note would be logged in some portable database.
Interesting point. Public and private comments is something we’ve definitely had on the radar before, and may put into Commentpress eventually. But the idea of publishing out your comments to a private, portable space—it’s a lot like a feature of most feed-readers. You can choose which links from your feed appear on a public blog, which is independent of the feed, and basically acts as a tracking device for all your readings.
This, of course, requires a centralized service on which to store the feed records, so the model is different than Commentpress. But maybe there’s something we can think about here using OpenID and pingbacks or trackbacks. In any case, a difficult problem in our current model of distributed installs, but an interesting thought. Thanks!
I use coComment’s services to track my public comments and conversations I participated in.
It might be useful to have private meta-comment facility. I think I have heard of some tools like that (clipping services?), but I am not using any at the moment.
having this interface in font of me, with the floating composition space, it’s fantastic. a real mental freshener. it occurs to me that if the meta-comment gizmo were to exist it would have to be paired with a web snapshot facility to retain context. i don’t know how i would handle that, but it’s a problem with web research in general. when you start going element-by-element on a page you get that exponential thing — nifty though to be able to see your friends’ del.icio.us markings, graf by graf, as you browse. version control nightmare!
Your development has already been eclipsed.
Reframeit.com has a tool that anone can use to comment on any portion (a word, phrase, sentence, paragraph — anything they highlight with the cursor) of any web page on the internets!
Yes, I recognize the work of McKenzie. I’ve seen a demonstration during a festival at Paris.
Ultimately, I’m not sure WordPress is the best platform for this idea. Maybe MediaWiki would be a better platform to start with. Or possibly Drupal.
This implementation is limited by a lot of things, including the fact that the paragraph and the page are the only units of text that can be commented on.
But it’s a great way to get a lot of people experimenting with relatively low technical threshold to cross.
Interesting concept.
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I’m a little at a loss for how ‘marginalia’ is lost. the ebook is always availalbe on the web’s ‘shelf’ just like any old book hidden on your book shelf. the same way you go back to find your book notes, you can find your web notes along with those of others which should provide a more edifying experience overall.
i’m sure at some point the text and comments of important texts will be provided in a print version – there will always be a need for canonization by materialization. At that point, the text and annotations will be easily pulled and distributed to all. The social evolution of the book can be made palpable.
This experiment excites me a great deal.
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this is really interesting!
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For private notes i use Zotero, which is basically a citation tool with some annotation functions. It’s implemented as a Firefox extension. I would prefer to by default share my notes and it AFAIK sharing of links and notes is in the works. Zotero takes snapshots of pages and retains a link to the original. I wish it had a function to compare the saved and the current versions of the original web page.
I wonder if you’re aware of the term guthenbergs parenthesis, it’s fascinating. The point is, that the printing press brought forth an era between the manuscript era and digital era during which texts were neither annotated nor shared by readers. With manuscripts the copies of texts were so few that scholars and other people studying shared them and thus their annotations too.
With the printing press, everybody could get their own private copy, thus no sharing was taking place. Also reading became a solitary, silent endeavour, unlike before. And now in the age of digital distribution, well… we spend all days discussing texts 🙂 Gutenberg parenthesis presents a period of silence in annotation and sharing the annotation.
Personally i think a WP plugin is not a perfect solution, since it’s not generalist. I would find a 3rd party service for centralized comments and a method for client (browser) to fetch and display them. Such a system perhaps already exists, but i’ve just failed to utilize it. Anyhow the idea and implementation of this commenting system is fantastic in a limited context. You’ve done an excellent job at questioning the standard style of blog comments (i cannot believe that hasn’t evolved after blogs were invented) and presenting a functional examples of an alternative.
I guess it is an inherent feature of commenting on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis, that i already wrote about the issues rised here in an earlier comment above. Perhaps it would still be a good idea to first read through the whole text at one uninterrupted go before commenting. Instead of hopping from reading-mode to commenting-mode after each paragraph 😉
There’s an simple article about web annotation on Wikipedia, with a list of implementations: I should go and try some.
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Nice para
i like the image of the book!
nice picture
need to edit: “it can constantly being revised.”
Thanks for the heads up Rachael – now fixed
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A nice comment
Interesting pic!
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As you said ! the future is good!
I like the margin comments. Is it possible to place comments directly below the paragraph in a hide/show format? I’ve been searching for this kind of solution for some time now. Mostly trying to string multiple WordPress plug-ins together…which gets tricky in a hurry. I haven’t dl Commentpress yet but I hope its not to difficult to skin and rearrange some of the page elements. Also, how would you suggest having multiple books on one comment press?
No, at present it’s not possible to change where the comments appear, but you could create a child theme to do this. Bear in mind that it would involve some pretty major revision, however.
Multiple books can easily be done by installing CommentPress in a multisite environment.
One advantage of comments in a separate pane is that a longer comment doesn’t interrupt the flow of the content but can be displayed in full in the separate space.
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This site – http://mcpress.media-commons.org/ShakespeareQuarterly_NewMedia/ – has a significantly different look than the out-of-the-box commentpress site. I like the top menu bar (or whatever it’s called) that provides a home button, blog pin, etc. and the colors are nice too.
Just to be sure i understand… In order to get a similar look, or at least move that way, I would need to create a child theme of CommentPress, and then modify (somehow) the css and php files? Right?
Just want to make sure I’m going in the right direction.
You can switch to the older supplied theme – look for CommentPress Default in Appearance -> Themes. There will be a number of customization options that you can employ, spread between the WordPress Customizer and the CommentPress options page. To do more than that will require the use of a child theme such as Kathleen has used on the site you mention.
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I am trying to figure out the very basics of setting up a Comment Press document for my website:
http://whyandwhat.net
I am finding it impossible to get started with this plugin.
1. To begin with: I cannot figure out how to rearrange my site menu so that when CommentPress is activated it lists the pages according to my menu arrangement in the Dashboard.
2. Why are comments turned off on my page “Phaedrus”? How do I change this?
3. Is it possible to create a single page on the larger site on which I can use CommentPress? Do I need to make every page open to comments? My aim is to publish a version of a text that students in a class can come to the site to comment on. So, the idea of a CommentPress “Document” is very attractive. (My initial inspiration is Social Book – a functionality and format that I would like to be able to approximate for specific pages on my blog.)
But as much as I search this site, I cannot figure out answers to any of these questions. Any places with further information about how to make headway would be much appreciated.
Ok – figured out how to reorder my TOC, still can’t figure out how to get the “Special Pages” to either move or disappear from the main menu. Also still wondering if I can somehow isolate a document with CommentPress enabled within my larger WordPress site.
Thanks for any help!
Hi Stuart, the way you can “isolate a document with CommentPress enabled within my larger WordPress site” is to use WordPress Multisite. There are detailed instructions on the CommentPress installation page on the WordPress plugin directory.
Hi Stuart, I’ll try and address all your questions in one go…
“I cannot figure out how to rearrange my site menu”
Glad you figured out how to reorder your menu.
“Why are comments turned off on my page “Phaedrus”? How do I change this?”
WordPress turns comments on pages off by default since version 4.3. You may have to explicitly allow commenting on a page now. You can do so by clicking “Edit Page” and ticking the checkbox there. If it’s not visible, check your “Screen Options”.
“My aim is to publish a version of a text that students in a class can come to the site to comment on.”
I would highly recommend the WordPress Multisite route I described earlier. This will allow you to add BuddyPress (and some other plugins) to create “classes” which can read and comment on the CommentPress site/document.
You can see this in action at Digital Thoreau, for example, which uses Commons in a Box plus a plugin called BP Group Sites to link the BuddyPress classes to the CommentPress texts.
Christian,
Ok – got the multi site up and running. So the address in this comment is to the new subdomain. I still can’t get pages to allow comments, however, except the title page. When I go to edit the settings on pages, it looks like the title page has different settings to choose from. I am posting two screen grabs here to show you what I am looking at on the page settings on the admin side of the site – the first is the title page, the second a page I created to start building the text I want students to comment on:
I have tried about every permutation on the site wide plugin settings, including setting and unsetting the Default. Any help?
Did you adjust your Screen Options? Tick “Discussion” and you should see a box beneath the content where you can allow comments on your page.
Christian,
If you mean the Discussion settings in WP, no, I don’t see anything regarding “screen options” there. I already allow comments on this page, so I am not sure what you mean by this.
Also, a new question: how can I edit my text to choose what becomes a paragraph of text? I am trying to format a dialogue (as in dramatic dialogue) but I don’t want every line by a new actor as a paragraph.
Thanks
Christian,
My apologies – just realized where you were pointing me in re Screen Options.
Also, I wonder if this is the place where I should be asking these types of questions. Is there a more appropriate forum for support?
Thanks.
My apologies – just realized where you were pointing me in re Screen Options.
Glad you got it sorted, Stuart.
Also, I wonder if this is the place where I should be asking these types of questions. Is there a more appropriate forum for support?
Github is a better forum for discussing code, but I’m happy to help wherever the conversation takes place.
Also, a new question: how can I edit my text to choose what becomes a paragraph of text? I am trying to format a dialogue (as in dramatic dialogue) but I don’t want every line by a new actor as a paragraph.
New questions are usually better in new threads, though this gives me the chance to use the comment-quoting functionality, I guess!
Have a look at the comment-block quicktag for separating the text in arbitrary ways.
Christian,
Greetings again from Stuart. I’ve gotten my “Readers’ Phaedrus” up now, but am experiencing a difficulty now with commenting from outside users. Specifically, all my students have reported, and I have experienced myself, an inability to get a comment posted due to a spinning status bar. Everyone who’s tried to comment on my site has experienced this, and only I an one other person have resolved it by shutting our browsers and logging back in sometime later to try again.
I tried to address the issue by inviting all my students to the site as Contributors, but this seems not to have helped in anyone’s case. Any insights? And thanks for taking my questions here – I am not conversant in code to the level I’d need to be to use GitHub.
I tried to comment on your site and got the response: “http://phaedrus.whyandwhat.net/wp-comments-post.php Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden)”.
This suggests a misconfiguration issue with WordPress on your server. I would contact the server host and ask for a sysadmin to take a look.
Cheers, Christian
Great overview and discussion of a tool I look forward to implementing in my English courses. Keep up the great project overviews. The detail and concise information is invaluable!
I’m interested in using this, but I don’t understand how the text is used.
For example, if I wanted to use an article from the web, I couldn’t just post it for my students. I’d have to get written permission to copy it so I could have it on my blog.
How does this work? I really like the idea, but I don’t know how to put it to use without violating copyright laws.
Hi Stacy, I’m not qualified to advise on legal matters, but perhaps one solution might be to make your website private so that only your students can view content when logged in? There are plugins such as Restricted Site Access that can make this happen.
I’m wondering if it’s possible to to edit comments in place?
If you’re logged in, then the “edit” link should be visible on all comments that you have the capability to edit. It does take you to the WordPress back end, however.
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Welcome to CommentPress (82 comments)
You can now include images in comments via the Add Media button which is part of the comment form when you’re logged in to the site.
Here’s another picture of The Gates inserted from another website:
Another new feature is that you can embed YouTube, Vimeo and other videos in comments too. Just paste the URL of the video into its own line like this:
And there you have it.
Hi! I just found a brief presentation about CommentPress and it seems easy to use, but I still have a doubt. How it brings together all the content?
Hi Anne, there is lots of information on this site explaining how to structure and format your content. If you have any specific questions, please don’t hesitate to ask – I’ll be happy to try and help.
Cheers, Christian
This looks interesting.
It really does! Are you planning to use it?
interesante, pero falta pulir más esto
olá!
This is GENIUS!
This should read: free open source theme and plugin!
[select some text and comment specifically on that selection]
Just testing out this awesome highlighting feature!
[specifically] a MAJOR improvement!
Hello from Brazil,
I heard about the platform Commentpress in a issay on the Printed Web 3.
Hugs.
[select some text and comment specifically on that selection. Annotate, gloss, workshop, debate: with CommentPress you can do all of these things on a finer-grained level, turning a document into a conversation. ]
Testing out the commenting highlights.
Very interesting Tool.
This tool remember me the google doc comments tool.
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would be nice to also have paragraph-independent comments, though
And some way to edit comments later on
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Thank you again,
Ralph Bloch
Very happy to hear that CommentPress has been useful to you. Thanks for letting us know!
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Very very very nice
This is very cool.
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Tambien me parece interesante. Existen unos cuantos. El que mas me gusta ahora es uno que se llama Hypothesis.
This is a really good feature. Another thing I like is that I didn’t have to register as a user to comment. I trust you keep my email address somewhere safe.
We keep data as safe as any WordPress site can keep it. For BuddyPress installs, you would have to login to derive the benefits of the integration.
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My bib class and I have just discovered commentpress, and we are very impressed with this.
Glad you like CommentPress. Be sure to let us know how you use it!
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I just try out this comment reply function how works
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Well this is pretty cool, I love innovate WordPress plugins.
Keep up the excellent work!
Tare care
Jamie
This is a fantastic way of creating a more in-depth article with the feel of Wikipedia.
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This plugin is cool. I wonder if I can only use template commentpress for user which logged, if use do not log in, my website will show my custom theme?
thanks for your help. ^^
You might be able to, but it would be a lot of coding to achieve that.
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Is there any other options for this?
What other options are you after?
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[As far as we can tell, this makes it compatible with Web Content Accessibility Guidelines.]
Esta bien interesante!!!
Wow, that’s impressive. Just what I was looking for.
Amazing tool!
Test select & comment
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Examples (60 comments)
My in-process article on Commentpress, in Commentpress: http://new.plannedobsolescence.net
The Untitled Document is using Commentpress:
http://theuntitleddocument.org
I created a website with the Constitution of Denmark for people to debate a much talked about future update of the law. It’s called Grundlovs Debat.
It’s in Danish though, so non-Danish readers probably won’t get much out of it, but Commentpress is a very cool tool for discussing texts like that.
I am using the Theme to dust off and work on a decade old project: Nomads at the Gate (http://dubnick.com/nomads/). I am just getting use to WP, so this is going to be slow process of gearing up….
Howdy Book Futurists,
I am setting up a “Plog” at http://www.didactalab.de/plog – right now it is in German language, but here is a short synopsis of the Plog idea:
A “Plog” is a Publication Blog, where the author(s) reflect their publications:
Short synopsis of the most important points with some quotes
reflection of thoughts
background infos and material, insights from today (what was good, where did we go wrong etc.)
rediscover ideas
make texts accessible where no fulltext is in open access
start discussion with readers
collect ideas, questions, contra-positions etc. from the readers
It’s a great tool – thanks for making it available!
Scholr 2.0 : a white paper by Scholars Portage
(“getting research from one body to another”)
Much thanks for Commentpress and all your work!
I’ve been eager to try this since it came out. We just published a Commentpress version of a new NMC white paper “Social Networking, the “Third Place,” and the Evolution of Communication”
http://web.nmc.org/communication/
I am a middle school teacher and my advisory/homeroom is using the blog to discuss a book we are reading. The students and I take turns reading the book. We record the readings in Audacity and upload the mp3s to the blog posts for students who are absent. Our discussions are pretty basic at this point, but I think the format has potential for giving students practice in reading, writing, speaking and listening.
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I had a similar idea about three years ago at the library, nice implementation!
You could also use this to collaboratively translate a text 😉
I use Commentpress as the layout for my AP Biology class’ blog, where we discuss issues in science, technology and society: TheBiologySpace.BioBlog
Just another person testing out commentpress. neat idea; in our software we’ve got word-by-word commenting so teachers can click just about anywhere in a student’s work and write in comments, which has its advantages and disadvantages vs this.
CUNY just put a draft of its 2008-2012 Master Plan up using Commentpress.
I used Commentpress to put my entire master’s thesis online for public scrutiny.
Correspondence training in theology and apologetics for students in Russia and the Ukraine.
We just started. Give me a couple of months and I will be able to give you a kind of report…
Prof Ben Oehler, HGE University,
Odessa, Ukraine
A site for commenting on public reports in considerable detail. Texts are broken down into their respective sections for easier consumption. Rather than comment on the text as a whole, you are encouraged to direct comments to specific paragraphs.
this is a great application. Looks like something that can really help collaboration.
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This link appears to be broken. I’m so eager to see how you’re using this.
Yeah, that’s a 2+ year old link, which is no longer working. That article is now readable at http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/mcpress/cpfinal and my book, also in CommentPress, is available at http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/mcpress/plannedobsolescence.
Just checking to see how this works…
ditto
Just testing this, and seeing how threaded the replies are.
Hi
I have just discovered Commentpress, thank you for making it available, great tool for some sort of collaborative work
Please keep updating it
Thank you from France
How did you find it worked in reality?
Are there ANY working links and examples for this project? Thanks in advance.
Yes, have a look at the two MediaCommons projects posted by KT above. Will try and post asap.
Definitely thinking of using this. Does it take over the whole site though or just word docs?
Also testing the same thing
We hope you’ll be pleased that version 3.2 is out today
The 3m10p project at Temple University used CommentPress to allow students to collaborate on research article drafts. Students in Temple’s Tokyo campus design psychology experiments and write the drafts, and psychology majors from Temple main campus in Philly debunk their work. The set-up allowed us to write 9 research papers in … only 3 months.
http://jjtok.io/3m10p
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Hello!I’ve just started to use CommentPress for the website of a book that I’m translating in instalments, a 1614 account of a journey around the world in the closing decades of the sixteenth century. You can see it at http://www.thetouroftheworld.org. Comments and suggestions are very welcome and would be most appreciated.Juan Cobo
Really like your site, Juan. Will email you privately about a few things. Best wishes, Christian.
This is so amazing…
Cool stuff!!!
Hi,I have a site setup with old version of wordpress and comment press version 1.4We decided to upgrade to new version of wordpress and new comment press.In my old website I used to select comment press theme it looks like the Holy of Holies example in your site. posts on the left then when you click on one post users are able to add comments to diff paragraph in the window that moves along the doc.The problem I see after I upgrade to new comment press I do not know how to get the same look to the old one.I upgrade the theme, the plugin and Ajax all for new comment press as you suggest in your site.Any thoughts!thanks
Hi, Just to clarify my previous email, What I would like to say that the look of the comment press theme new one is different than the version 1.4 e.g this link refer to the old one where on the right hand side you can see the widget. When I try to do that for the new theme I did not get the same result.http://web.nmc.org/communication/ any ideas?thanks
You’re right, the theme has changed considerably in the intervening years. There is no current Commentpress theme which looks like the one that shipped with version 1.4, but, as with all open source software, it would be great of you decided to write one 🙂
If you want to try your hand at it, there’s a starter child theme on GitHub
Just curious, why do you actually want to change it if it’s not broken?
Hi, it is really a very nice plugin and working fine , i really like it.
this tool is great, thanks.
The German Social Democrativ Party uses Commentspress to discuss parts of their party platform: https://mitreden.akdigitalegesellschaft.de/
Thanks for letting us know
interesante plug
Checking also, great thing !
Congrats guys 🙂
Great plugin!
My Bob Dylan related site, built with CommentPress. Just completed. Haven’t publicized it yet.
the site is: http://stevelescure.net/wp
Thanks for the link, Steve. I’ll update the list of CommentPress-powered sites when I get a moment.
some of these links are dead now – Gamer theory, Scholarly Publishing by Fitzpatrick are dad, and the future of learning institutions goes to a directory listing; with rummaging, it is possible to find http://futureofthebook.org/HASTAC/learningreport/about/index.html and see it
Others may also need checking (Oct 2014)
[…] Blogs can also be used to create interactive books that allow individuals to comment on individual sections, chapters, sentences etc. For example, see CommentPress for WordPress (examples here). […]
This is just a test comment to see how the quote & comment feature works.
I’ve used CommentPress in four or five university literature classes to encourage active reading and interpretation. The website I’ve linked on Austen’s Mansfield Park is an example. It’s a wonderful tool. Thanks for maintaining it.
I also gave a paper about this pedagogical use of CommentPress at the 2014 “Experimental Interfaces for Reading” conference put on by the INKE (Implementing New Knowledge Environments) Project.
Thank you for the kind words and information about the talk Robert. I watched the video and would be very interested in seeing the information on reactions to the interface that you weren’t able to present. Is there a paper on this?
BTW, I will revamp this page (and indeed the content of the rest of the site!) as soon as I find some free time to do so.
Attempting one more level
Yes, it seems that all of the links are broken/dead. 🙁
Roadmap (56 comments)
Hi there,
We are using WordPress MU at the University of Victoria for distance courses and program community building. Are there any plans for the Commentpress theme to work with WordPress MU?
Thanks,
Keith Webster
that would make an amazing tool!
One feature I’m really hoping to see is the ability to break up long chapters into multiple pages using the tag (currently supported by wordpress). As it is now, if the post is broken up into multiple pages, a comment for paragraph 3 would be linked to the 3rd paragraph for every page of that chapter, not just to the one page it was meant to be linked to (sorry for the awkward wording there — I hope you can understand!).
Also, I would love to see some form of footnotes feature implemented as Papier Machine wrote above. Instead, I was forced to write my own footnote script that worked with commentpress.
What about translation in french?
Hi Guys. Forgive my ignorance but after reading the Eduspaces comment does this mean that Commentpress runs on wordpress Mu too??
I would like to have the option, of displaying the all the paragraphs of the original article side-by-side (contextually) with the comments of a selected individual user.
This would give greater coherence to the views of individual commentators and would open all sorts of creative possibilities for versioning.
A great tool!
Mark
The ability to tag the paragraphs withoiut the <p> tag. Perhaps a different custom tag, as I’d like that every single paragraph seperatly commentable.
Sorry, id like it it every single pararaph WASN’T seperatly commentable by default.
Belatedly: Commentpress has worked with MU since version 3.1
Commentpress has supported multi-page posts since version 3.1. It also seems to work fine with jquery-tooltip.
@ActualAl: yes
This can now be done in version 3.2 – please see the documentation on “comment-blocks”. What you can’t do is mix automatic parsing and manual block division on the same page.
This looks like an awesome tool! How would one go about structuring several “books” with states in the same WordPress instance? I guess many people have a process that involves several publications. For each there is a beta stage where comments are accepted and taken into consideration after which a new version is published.
My immediate thought would be to use Commentpress in a multisite setup/environment. Each “book” would be equivalent to a “blog”, with new revisions being new blogs.
How you decide to migrate the content from one revision to the next would be the only slightly tricky part – but you could always just export the blog using the built-in WordPress exporter, I suppose… though that would take all the comments with it. Not too hard to amend what gets exported, however.
Christian — in your current version of CommentPress hosted by FOTB, I see a reference to “rollover footnotes” code with Jquery tooltip. But this code does not appear in the CommentPress v3.2 that I recently downloaded. Is it a separate WP plug-in that I need to install? thanks!
Jack,
did you find an answer to this question about rollover footnotes? I’d be interested, as I will have the same issue when i start using this next week.
Yes, here
Great Project!A recent comments feature would be nice to see the latest comments added to a page.Cheers,Matthias
Hi Matthias, for reasons too complicated to explain, the Commentpress you see here is a little out of date. There is now an “Activity” tab which contains (amongst other things depending on context) a recent comments section.
Until I update this site. you can see an install of the latest version here.
We are using CommentPress to create an online commentary to an ancient Greek text at the Center for Hellenic Studies in Washington, DC. In order to foster dialogue (rather than simply invite comments) we are asking users to begin each comment with a question. As each question might receive 10 comments of its own (and thus necessitate a lot of scrolling from question to question), we would like to be able to collapse the “Comments” section in Commentpress such that you see only the questions but must click on them to expand to the proposed answers/comments. Is this possible? And if so, how do we do it? If this format is not possible, would it be possible to create a third tab, called Questions, along with Comments and Contents, that would then allow you to comment just as you can comment on paragraphs now?
Norman, in case you are not able to find a coding solution before you launch your discussion, take a look at how co-editor Kristen Nawrotzki and I handled a similar issue during the “Essay Idea Discussion” phase of our edited volume, Writing History in the Digital Age. Using CommentPress, we invited contributors to comment on existing ideas and to post new ones (as a comment on the last paragraph on the page). When new topics appeared that warranted further discussion, we would copy & paste them from the comment into the main text and designate each with its own number.
I’m using this wonderful plugin and theme in a large book with several chapters and sub-chapters. I would like to have the option to collapse the menu on Contents tab so it shows just main chapters and when click on one chapter it shows the sub-chapters.
On the Commentpress admin page, in the “Table of Contents” section, set “Chapters are” to “Headings”. This has two effects:
a) It collapses the Contents list in the way you want
b) It takes all but the lowest level pages out of the “flow” of the document
Is it possible to obscure the identity of commenters? I may wish to use CommentPress in a social science context where the confidentiality of participants is required. Seems like it would be possible to tweak the form to achieve this.
Hi Richard – do you mean that commenters need not leave their name, or that commenters names are not shown on the website?
I changed the setting from pages to headings, this results in not being able to view the main page that is the parent page, but does collapse the menu and allows for viewing the child pages. .. so, it’s not a solution for me, because I have content on the parent page that needs to be seen.
I would like to have another sidebar in which we can put other widgets preferably on the left side of the content.
Tom: you cannot have a collapsible menu and content in the page hierarchy – it’s one or the other at the moment. Only pages with no children can have content when the hierarchy describes their “grouping”. There are plans to offer a different Contents list – one with “discovery triangles” perhaps – that allows hierarchy and content, but this is still on the to-do list.
Thanks for the feedback. You’ll need to make a child theme to do this.
how hard would it be for a person to create some program that would add a zillion comments to a site using this theme, thereby causing lots of problems. (I’m working on a site using this theme – that thought just came to me. i’d hate all the work to get wrecked.) thanks
Hi Christian, — Congratulations on such a useful tool! — I wanted to ask you what the best way to translate CommentPress into Spanish would be (I noticed “Internationalisation and translation” is done). I have most of my content up on the my site, but I would like to translate the “comments”, “contents”, “Name (required)” “0 comments on paragraph 2”, and all of those terms used in WordPress/CommentPress.— Thank you in advance for all your help!
Would love if the table of contents automatically expanded to the page currently open. Also would like the ability to place a NextGen gallery widget in an additional tab in right-hand sidebar.
RSS Feed would nice. Or is it already there and i just don’t see it?
Hi Steve, there are auto-discovery feeds for
in the HTML head. Were there any others you were after?
Ajax posting of the comments without re-loading the page is very much needed.
It is done and has been for a while. I just haven’t updated this page for a long time. Sorry for the confusion.
Is it possible to allow multimedia in the comments such as inserting images or even sound or video?
Not at present, Christopher. I will look into making the HTML editor an option.The comment form now includes the “Add Media” button for those with the appropriate capabilities.Sort of in the same vein as Richard above, I was wondering if there was a way to make comments private. The idea is that if we post a document, we want plenty of community input. But, we don’t want those comments visible to all users, just to the person who posted their document. This is specifically geared toward people commenting on academic works-in-progress, so critiques are not aired fully in public, but can be helpful for whoever posted their work. Any guidance or referrals you can give would be great!
This is of course possible, but would require some sort of custom coding to achieve what you’re after. There is no built-in facility for this in CommentPress.
Hi,I Would love to use commentpress on a specific section of my site. So only when you click on a menu item ‘review’ the theme of commentpress is enabled. On other pages, the normal page is loaded. The problem now is that when you activate the plugin, the whole site is using the commentpress theme.Thanks for your great work!Ramon
Hi Ramon – it’s for historical reasons that the plugin takes over the whole of a WordPress site: it was coded to create sites that were “documents”. It would either need some work done on the plugin to implement what you want, or you could use a WordPress multisite install where a sub-blog is CommentPress-enabled.
I am testing CommentPress, and I like it.Is it possible to have several documents? I am doing so by having different documents under the ToC instead of chapters… I have to see how to rename ToC for Documents instead.Also How to disable customise or hide the special pages in the menu? I don’t use the blog for instance.
Hi Daniel, there are a number of ways to achieve what you want. It depends on your larger goals. With CommentPress, each WordPress “blog” or “site” is considered a “document”, so the simplest way to have multiple docs is to create a multisite version of WordPress, where each site/blog in your network is a CommentPress document. There are fairly comprehensive instructions on the WordPress repo.
Altering the content of the Special Pages menu can be done through the use of the actions and filters that are present in the theme. You’ll either need to create a child theme or plugin for this purpose as there’s no UI for doing so as yet.
I work for a county agency and we are interested in using Commentpress on our website to allow the public to comment on draft documents. Does comment press only work with text files? Or can Commentpress also be used on a pdf document?
CommentPress won’t work with PDFs – you would have to convert the content to HTML and import it into WordPress.
Thanks. Now once the PDF is converted into HTML, will Commentpress still preserve the layout of the HTML doc?
It’s possible to convert a PDF to an HTML doc and keep your photographs/texts/layout. I just wanted to see if Commentpress would preserve this as well.
Complicated layouts are probably beyond the scope of CommentPress, but you can test its capabilities with the WordPress Theme Unit Test. For a preview of such a test, have a look at this test site.
I’m with Ramon. I’d like to be able to activate CommentPress on a document-by-document basis. I like the functionality quite a lot, but I’m definitely not okay with the fact that it takes over my site design completely.
Some of the function seems unnecessary and duplicative. I’ve already got provision for a table of contents, for example. It’s not clear to me (though I suspect there’s a reason) why CP has any need to know about the document as a whole rather than simply associating comments with a particular page.
CommentPress is excellent work. This frustrates me, because I’d really like to use what you’ve done, but I’m going to have to substantially re-work the plugin to do so. Even if that’s the case, though, thanks so much for your excellent work. Sometimes knowing it can be done is most of the battle. Having an example to work from is icing on the cake.
Jonathan, have a look at Islamic History Commons, which, in combination with Commons in a Box and BP Working Papers implements something like the system you seem to be describing. You can then host any number of “papers” on your site.
Hi, I would like to ask the same question as Mauricio Delfin above, but for a different language: how to go about translating the plugin into Dutch? Do I need to check the different plugin files and translate any strings I encounter, or do I need to work on a translation file? Thanks in advance.
Your best bet is to use a plugin such as Loco Translate. If you’d like to contribute your translation to the plugin (which would be greatly appreciated) I believe you can export the .po and .mo files and send them to me.
Cheers, Christian
I agree it would be nice to have the option of hiding the name of commentators to remove clutter from the page.
Hello,
Can we request the implementation of infinite loader (both page and single page) ?
Greetings,
L.
Can we request the implementation of infinite loader (both page and single page
Much of the code for this exists in the plugin; it’s just disabled at the moment. I’d love to revisit it.
Formatting Your Document (43 comments)
Many journalists I know refer to “graphs.” A “paragraph” could be the larger term. Or to be clearer, change the term for the aggregated paragraphs — perhaps call them “comment sections.”
Another option: Jack Slocum, whose own granular commenting system very much influenced Commentpress, calls them “blocks”.
It’s awesome that you use paragraph tags, I wrote my own commenting system many years ago in perl and it also used paragraph breaks. So hopefully I can port my book draft over to Comment Press with minimal reformatting required.
This is an interesting piece of software – looks fantastic for this kind of thing actually.
[…] tools is actually a pretty clever and simple extension of WordPress, called Commentpress. It links the comments to specific paragraphs in a post, displaying the two side-by-side not […]
I like “blocks” myself. I also like “units” or “sense unit”.
I have a document that includes many bulleted lists, and Commentpress is essentially useless because there is no way to indicate that a list is a paragraph. Doesn’t help to add tags around the list. Makes me very sad, as Commentpress is so useful otherwise.
“Lexias” is cute, from an obscurity point of view. I get the concern about “paragraph.”
If I follow, text blocks (like <p>, <ol>, <ul>) are commentable. Is blockquote?
What if you have an embedded ul? As in:
<ul><li>blah blah
<li>blah blah
<ul><li>sub-blah blah
<li>sub-blah blah
</ul><li>Back to the main blah
</ul>
I’m not sure that’s necessary, just wondering. From the example, it seems the comments apply to the <ul> tag, not the subsequent <li> tags.
@Dot: Commentpress 3.2 has two ways to generate commentable blocks -either leave the text as is and it’ll parse <p>, <ul> and <ol> tags, or use the new “comment-block” divider in the edit page screen to arbitrarily sub-divide your text.
@Dave: sub-lists break Commentpress at the moment. Sorry about that – we’ll look more closely at it and see what’s possible.
Can’t get vimeo video to embed. Can someone supply more details on how to do this? Thanks. Mark
How does one change the green background to a different color or texture? I tried changing all the colors in the css files but only managed to change the header somehow.
The definition of the colour for the body background is in layout.css, but you can override it in a number of ways: use a child theme and define your body colour there, or use the custom.css file to put your overridden style in.
Thanks for replying. One other question: the logo image repeats itself on monitor resolutions greater than 1600 (mine’s 1920). The header tab does not give us the option to control this. Thanks!
Add this to custom.css, or in your child theme:
body #book_header {background-repeat: no-repeat;
}
Is there a way to add blog categories on the right along with or instead of archives? Also, how does one add social media icons or an RSS feed?
Not via the admin interface, I’m afraid. You’d have to code it.
Thanks for replying. Your advice on my earlier questions helped me greatly.Let’s say I wanted to put two icons in the header area with its own css boxes, which file or css item should I look for? Wish there was a way I could add blog categories along with the archives tab – that would make it almost like two documents within a blog!
Hi John – first off, if you have an Archive tab, then you’re running an outdated version of the theme and plugin. The Archive tab was removed in favour of an Activity tab in Commentpress 3.3. For obvious reasons, I’d recommend upgrading.
You’ll find the code for the icons in a file called navigation.php, which is in the ‘style/templates’ sub-directory of the theme. The images you’ll need to replicate are in ‘style/images/buttons’. And the CSS controlling them is in layout.css, though you’ll want to look at layout.dev.css for a readable version.
I think I see where you want to go with your modifications – if you contact me directly, I may be able to help you customise your install more robustly.
Oh no. I have 3.2.1…but when I clicked download it takes me to the same github page with version 3.2.1. Where can I find 3.3.1?
Github always has the latest code for the theme and plugins. Just download them again from their Github pages.
Is there a ‘minifier’ application to generate style-overrides.css from style-overrides.dev.css ?
Woops. I should read the file comments more carefully ….When you’re happy, use a minifier such as http://www.refresh-sf.com/yui/ to compress your CSS and paste it into `style-overrides.css`.
When I insert the commentblock tag before each sentence (with no space after it), only the entire paragraph is commentable. If I add a space after each commentblock tag, each sentence is commentable, but the text is no longer formatted as a paragraph, i.e. each sentence is followed by a line break. Can’t I make each sentence commentable while keeping the paragraph format?
Yes, sure, depending on the version of CommentPress you’re using. If you’re using CommentPress Core from the WP plugin directory, then just switch the format of the page to “Poetry”.BTW, commentblock tags are intended for grouping multiple paragraphs together, rather than subdividing paragraphs into smaller parts.
Sorry, Steve, I misunderstood your question. No, I’m sorry, but making sentences within paragraphs commentable is not currently possible. Poetry-style formatting makes lines within paragraphs commentable, but they must each be new lines, not run together as prose.
Hi, I have a basic question: My paragraphs are correctly marked with numbers and bubbles, but the comment’s tab says “comments closed.” Am I missing something that I need to throw to activate the comments?
It sounds like comments are disabled for that post. You should find an option for that on the post’s edit screen.
I have the same problem as John Lott but I’m still in the setup phase, and I’m not on a Post but a Page. How do I set up pages so I don’t have “Comments Closed” ?
btw–this is a marvelous theme and plugin. You are what I have been looking for!
Thank you,
Gabrielle
Just wanted to see what a reply to a reply looks like.
And then a reply to a reply to a reply!
This can maybe go on forever!
Hi Christian, I was wondering if its possible to have pages where the only option is to have a page comment? And is there a tag for making a paragraph etc uncommentable ie the opposite of the comment block tag?
Love the plugin by the way. I’m hopeing to make good use of it on an online research module I am developing, so thanks for creating it.
Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark – at present there is no way to disable paragraph-level commenting on individual pages. I will add it as a feature request and try and include that in the next version. Thanks for the suggestion.
Cheers, Christian
I get the “comments Closed” starting on chapter 9. I can’t figure out what’s happening. The comments work great for chapters 1-8.
The comments aren’t disabled. It seems as if I just ran out of comment room and comments just itself down from that point forward
I want to thank Christian at Future of the Book for his immediate assistance. It turned out there was yet another place where comments can be turned on or off that I didn’t know about. This is how I fixed it. I went to the page in WordPress that lists all your pages. There I selected all the pages and went to the BULK ACTIONS tab. From there I went to EDIT. With all the pages chosen, I clicked on APPLY next to the EDIT option. Here I found another Comments option tab. I clicked on ALLOW and SAVE. Once I did this all the comments worked.
You’re welcome Robbin!
[I mistakenly left this comment elsewhere, but this now seems like the best place]
I’m trying to set up a 19th century novel for collective annotation, and running into one problem: this text has lots of dialogue and few speech prefixes–which means it’s full of one-sentence paragraphs. Eliminating them damages readability; retaining them makes for a terribly busy interface.
Is there a feature I’m missing where I can shut off commenting within a page (I’m using one page for each chapter of the text)?
Is adding large numbers of commentblocks to chunk content my best best?
Thanks! Nick
Hi Nick, have you considered using “comment blocks” instead of relying on auto-formatting?
When you’re creating or editing your pages, you should see an “Insert a Comment Block” button which will allow you to group your single sentence paragraphs into larger commentable blocks. The only limitation with this method is that you’ll have to divide up the whole page with these separators. See paragraph 2 on this page for details.
Yes, that makes sense. I had been adding individual comment blocks and finding that they didn’t work well with paragraph breaks, so I’d neglected the comment block feature. But I think it’s the way to go…thanks!
No problem. Let me know how you get on and if you run into further issues, post me an URL and I’ll see if I can suggest anything else.
Installation (21 comments)
[…] Installation […]
interesting
Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /users/leaf3/users/web/irtemed/web/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/commentpress/class_commentpress_display.php on line 1546
Same problem as demetri. He’s probably using the latest WP install, 2.9.1, like me. Are there any solutions to this?
Thanks to Kevin’s input, we now seem to have fixed this. Download cp_latest.zip for an updated plugin.
[…] See more here: Commentpress » Installation […]
I’m wondering how I can get to the CSS to change basic things like the footer color and such. I’ve gone to the Admin dashboard and then to the Editing part of the interface, but the custom CSS appears hidden.
I’d recommend creating a child theme to override styles, but if you need to edit the css in the theme from the WordPress backend, you should just be able to add your style overrides in either style.css or custom.css
Thanks – will try that today.
so far so good – i am so excited to try out this software. (i tried using digress.it first – very buggy). The installation went well – except – step 12 and 13 and 14. I can’t find the checkbox “create special pages”. ? can anybody help? it seems simple to do, but… i’ve never used WP before, maybe i’m missing something obvious.
Oops, documentation is out-of-date. No need to create the “special pages” any more – they’re auto created for you when you enable the plugin.
thanks! i was still puzzling over this issue. now i can rest easy :-)this is so interesting!
Thanks for pointing out the error, Steve.
CommentPress Core version 3.4 (with WP 3.4.2 multisite mode, and BuddyPress 1.6) throws a fatal error when attempting to activate on a system running php 5.4.
This is a php 5.4 Call-time pass by reference error (eg http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8971261/php-5-4-call-time-pass-by-reference-easy-fix-available)Here’s the code: 529 // use method in this class
530 $this->options_help( &$screen );
I think that changing to :
$this->options_help( $screen );and settingfunction options_help(&$screen)will do the job although I have not tried this yet.I’m wondering where the new version is showcased, as I like the look of it.Lots.
The fix in version 3.4.1 fixed this problem a treat! Thanks for the quick response.
Hi,
I get the following error when trying to submit a comment:
Ajax error! TypeError: Cannot call method ‘split” of undefined
What am I doing wrong?
thanks
Forget my last comment,
I was trying to comment on a pages that hadn’t been published yet duh!
Hi Martin, sorry about the wait – it’s finally here on this site.
Greetings – Is there a way to edit the special pages menu in the current version? Thanks! d-
Only by using a child theme or plugin, but either way it’s a little technical. If you want to have a go, it’s the filter ‘cp_template_navigation’ that you want to look at. Return the path to your adapted copy of the special pages menu file and edit away.
Download (20 comments)
This is a great idea!
I am very pleased to see this. It has been a long time we are working on something similar, but as a standalone app, fully open source (gnu affero gplv3). Feel frre to contact me if you need some help (specially UI and UX).
“a content license selector” sounds great! but i couldn’t find out anything @ “Commentpress options page” except ‘The title for table of contents’ and ‘ The slug of post to appear as welcome message’. am i in the wrong page?
Also, in s.korea, we have similar license scheme like CCL. can i add it to the selection?
btw, i really hope to localize it into korean. where can i reach ‘internationalization support’ so that i start to translate?
thanks
paragraphe génial
This is a test post wanting to see how this looks.
Hi,
While trying to activate this on wordpress 2.9.2 it gives the error ‘The plugin does not have a valid header.’.
Any solution to this?
Thanks,
I don’t get this error on 2.9.2, and AFAIK, WordPress plugin headers haven’t changed format. Can you give bit more information on your installation environment?
FYI, the file cp_latest.zip has a bunch of hidden system files in it that you will probably want to get rid of. These are all hidden system files: There is a folder titled “_MACOSX” also in cp_latest there is .DS_STORE, and in themes/commentpress there is .InterarchyMirrorCacheData, etc…
Thanks Tim, will look into it. We’re not far off releasing a new and updated version.
Belatedly: CP is compatible with the WPLicence plugin. Internationalisation is in the pipeline.
Tim: the new version of CP is now up – no more rogue files and a host of new goodies instead.
And, as I should have said above, THANK YOU for your work!
Apologies, Christian — I hadn’t uploaded the plugin. Still having problems with display, but no longer getting error messages about undefined calls. Feel free to delete my comments above (except for the thank you, which still stands!)
Comments duly deleted… thanks for the thanks… if you want me to take a look at the remaining issues, let me know. Christian
[…] Permalink for this paragraph 0 Until such time as we can rewrite the Commentpress theme to accommodate the admin bar, it seems sensible to disable it. To that end, there is a new version of Commentpress available for download. […]
This is another test post wanting to see how a comment to a comment looks like.
Hello .. nice tool
Hi, I wonder if there is a version of commentPress that works with updated version of wordpress 3.4.2 Thanks
The current version available here works just fine, Nancy.
noma sana maze!
How to read a CommentPress document (17 comments)
I am trying out CommentPress on a WP 3.0.3 installation as a Network/MU and also have Buddypress 1.2.7 installed.
I do not see the top navigation bar. And as a matter of fact it looks like the CommentPress header and the Buddypress navigation conflict with each other.
Any ideas?
Sorry, but Commentpress has not been developed with Buddypress in mind, nor has it ever been tested with it. I am aware that the admin bar that is enabled by default in WP3.1 conflicts with the Commentpress navigation bar, so the plugin disables the admin bar for now. I am considering the options with regard to this, but can’t see a solution at present because both are absolutely positioned at the top of the page by default.
Is there a way to have the Table of Contents be the default display in the right hand column rather than Comments? I’m trying to use Commentpress for an entire class of students working on research papers. I’m going to assign each of them a parent page with several child pages (abstract & topic, research notes, draft). Having the Table of Contents up makes it a lot easier to navigate between students and see the total range of pages on site.
No, at present this isn’t possible. You could perhaps use multiple tabs to do what you want, with the TOC visible in the ‘master’ tab and open pages in new tabs instead of the same window.
can i copy this page and put it into my own document as a guide for readers?
It’s been a while, so please ignore if you’ve moved on, but I thought I’d let you know that Commentpress is now compatible with BuddyPress via BP-Groupblog and an additional plugin. The relevant packages are available on Github.
Very, very nice. I’m writing research pages which require feedback on paragraphs and this is great.
As this is so good AND focuses you to paragraphs I was wondering if you knew if any of the ‘in line / front end’ editors were compatible with and worked with this plugin?
I have just tested CommentPress with WordPress Front-end Editor and unfortunately it doesn’t work as expected. I’ll look into this and see what can be done.
Haha – yea I just found that out too. BUT this one (below) does seem to work and it doesn’t seem to interfer with CommentPress either. Fantastic.
http://scribu.net/wordpress/front-end-editor/
Thanks for the report, Clive. I’ve also opened a ticket for the WordPress Front-end Editor folks to investigate.
Sorry Christian I spoke to soon I can edit and the comments icons are there BUT I cannot access (open) the comments in the comment list. I’ll leave a comment on this plugins support page and see what happens. CommentPress is making a big difference getting feedback and refining pages.
I get Javascript errors when using Scribu’s FEE, which would explain why the comment list fails to open. The content is peppered with [empty]. Sorry about that, but glad to hear that CommentPress is helping your cause.
So, okay, my site isn’t a WP site, but I’m putting one together that is.
Comment: most of your link in the Examples are dead … probably should go back and try those again.
This looked interesting since my vet (the one for whom I’m putting this site together) wants to be able to post unusual procedures that they’ve performed in the clinic. But not allowing the use of an existing template leave me cold (as a developer) and the entire concept of commenting by paragraph is definitely overkill.
Feel free to educate me if you will //al
Thanks for the feedback on the links, Al. You’re right that CommentPress certainly isn’t for everybody – we tried to make paragraph level commenting applicable to other themes, but there were always too many unknowns to do so reliably. Hence the custom parent themes.
I’m confused: what has happened to these two features in the current version of Commentpress?
Sorry Nick I need to update the screenshots. The functionality still exists in the “modern” theme, however – look at the links under “Special Pages”.
ah, OK–thanks!
Structuring your Document (16 comments)
test comment this is what a comment should look like.
Checking how Commet Press works…
Replying to a reply.
I have a bunch of comments about the configuration of CommentPress here:http://wp-bp.tiddlyspace.com/#%5b%5bCommentPress%20configuration%5d%5d
Thanks for the feedback – what is the best way to respond on tiddlyspace? Inline wiki edits?
In general, IIRC, you’re using CP and BuddyPress together? If so, the header colours are supposed to coordinate with blog type and workflow status – i.e. whether a groupblog is prose or poetry and whether it has the (experimental) translation workflow enabled. If it’s a sub site that’s not a groupblog, then header colour ought to be configurable.
The state of confusion is largely because CommentPress has had theme customisation (of a sort) since WP2.5 and keeping all those legacy installs happy requires the combination of customizer, header and background pages. I’ll do better version detection in a future version, which migrates the old settings to customizer ones.
Testting this wonderful
plugin!ermahgehrt this is pretty cool.
What do we do to reconfigure the height of the header? We can’t figure out where to go or what to do to edit this–help!
There are no user-configurable options to do this. You’ll need to create a child theme and start from there. Please see my reply on wordpress.org.
Nope, i cant figure out where is the setting to show subpages.. it puts all the pages in the same level..
Pietro: there’s a checkbox on the CommentPress Core settings page. Go to:
Settings → CommentPress Core
… and look for Show Sub-Pages under Table of Contents.
If that doesn’t work, then are you sure your pages actually have a hierarchy?
No checkbox, only this:
NOTE! When Chapters are Pages, the TOC will always show Sub-Pages, since collapsing the TOC makes no sense in that situation
and yes, i have 2 child of
Title Page
SOLVED
just it wont show the hierarchy if u put child of the “homepage redirected” page 😉
Okay, so is your TO set to show Pages?
And do what do you have for “Chapters are”?
BTW, just checking about the pages… you’d be surprised etc…
Ah, yes, thanks – that’s recently been pointed out to me. The Title Page is put in to the list separately, without its child pages. I’ll fix that in the next release.
Glad you’re sorted.
Awesome initiative
General Comments (11 comments)
I think this works great….
After installing commentpress and following the directions, I’m getting a “fatal error” in the coding. Any advice on this?
The theme is broken with WordPress 3.0. I did adapt it so that it works to some extent (see the site URL I’ve given), but I couldn’t get the paragraph-level commenting to work and so I removed it altogether from the plugin & theme. I left “General Comments” enabled and renamed it “Comments on the Book.” Let me know if you want the code and I’ll be happy to give it to you — I like the “bookishness” of the CommentPress theme enough to forego the paragraph-level commenting.
Any outside chance that you guys could do a Blogger version?
I don’t see how that would be achievable. Blogger is a closed system.
How so? You can edit all the code without paying, unlike WordPress.
CommentPress is for self-hosted WordPress installs, not wordpress.com
I’ve been using CommentPress for my site for some time now. I think it’s a brilliant tool. I thought I’d give my 2 cents on what could be improved.
I think the major “problem” is with the layout of the front page. It’s not very “inviting”, as some of my readers have said. And I agree.
First, there needs to be an easy way to change the colors. The current ones are too dark. I know I can create a child theme, but that’s not exactly straight-forward with CommentPress. It’s hard to figure out the style sheets.
More importantly, I think the general layout needs to change. I think it would be better if the items on the left-hand side were moved to the Header. Table of Contents could be a drop-down menu of some sort. The items under “Special pages would go to the right of the Table of Contents. It would probably make sense to move “Activity” to the header as well.
This change would solve two major issues. First, it would provide more reading room for the page. That would make the page easier to read, and not look so squished. Also, the items under Special Pages would be much easier to find. And it would focus attention on the main point – the text and the comments.
Just something to consider, just my thoughts. I know making these type of changes would be difficult. CommentPress is complicated (I’ve been looking through the code! Whoa.)
Many thanks for your thoughtful comments, Steve, you feedback is greatly appreciated.
I certainly agree that the homepage template needs to be more inviting and/or functional. It has always been assumed that people would do that themselves, though perhaps too much technical knowledge has also been assumed. I will have a think about that, however, and see if I can make some quick improvements.
As far as child themes go, there is a starter child theme which even I use to customise sites to suit a particular colour scheme. The default grey palette is deliberately muted so that it doesn’t get in the way of designers too much. I am reluctant to go too far down the road of offering back-end configurable color schemes for a number of reasons, but mostly because it would require considerable effort. Time for a crowdfunding campaign, perhaps?
Regarding the design changes you suggest, I have taken them on board and whilst I’m not promising to implement them, I will bear them in mind when I do get the opportunity to do further updates.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Thanks for taking to the time to respond. I’m not sure my suggestions would be helpful in reality, but something to think about anyway. And yea, I understand the amount of work.
I was checking out my site on my new android, and i see that NAVIGATE, CONTENTS, DISCUSS appear in the footer. interesting. that seems to work well. i like it.
I started to look into making some modifications myself, but quickly found it was a bit over my head. I was able to install a child theme, and edit the CSS a bit, although i found even that a challenge. I decide to work on some simpler themes first, do some reading, and return to it when i understand it more. I’m starting to get a much better idea of how to go about things.
Happy to hear you’re getting the hang of things. CommentPress is not as friendly as it could be for less technical folks. Hang on in there and it will become clearer.
Glad you like the responsive elements to the design. In fact, you could trigger them at larger screen sizes if you prefer the layout. Try making your desktop browser window smaller and you’ll see the design change to be a bit more like what you’re seeing on your mobile device. I’ll investigate how straightforward it would be to make that an admin option if it appeals.
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A new look to the sidebar (2 comments)
Dumb question probably, but can I install Commentpress on a regular old WordPress blog if I have WordPress Pro?
By “WordPress Pro”, I assume you mean a premium service on wordpress.com. If that’s the case, then no, I’m sorry, that’s probably not possible. As far as I know, you can only use Commentpress on a standalone WordPress install.
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