{"id":395,"date":"2005-10-17T09:00:52","date_gmt":"2005-10-17T09:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"\/ifbookblog\/?p=395"},"modified":"2005-10-17T09:00:52","modified_gmt":"2005-10-17T09:00:52","slug":"nicholas_carr_on_the_amorality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/2005\/10\/17\/nicholas_carr_on_the_amorality\/","title":{"rendered":"nicholas carr on &#8220;the amorality of web 2.0&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nicholasgcarr.com\/\">Nicholas Carr<\/a>, who writes about business and technology and formerly was an editor of the Harvard Business Review, has published an interesting though problematic piece on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roughtype.com\/archives\/2005\/10\/the_amorality_o.php\">&#8220;the amorality of web 2.0&#8221;<\/a>. I was drawn to the piece because it seemed to be questioning the giddy optimism surrounding &#8220;web 2.0&#8221;, specifically Kevin Kelly&#8217;s rapturous late-summer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/wired\/archive\/13.08\/tech.html\">retrospective<\/a> on ten years of the world wide web, from Netscape IPO to now. While he does poke some much-needed holes in the carnival floats, Carr fails to adequately address the new media practices on their own terms and ends up bashing Wikipedia with some highly selective quotes.<br \/>\nCarr is skeptical that the collectivist paradigms of the web can lead to the creation of high-quality, authoritative work (encyclopedias, journalism etc.). Forced to choose, he&#8217;d take the professionals over the amateurs. But put this way it&#8217;s a Hobson&#8217;s choice. Flawed as it is, Wikipedia is in its infancy and is probably not going away. Whereas the future of Britannica is less sure. And it&#8217;s not just amateurs that are participating in new forms of discourse (take as an example the new <a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/2005\/10\/law_faculty_blo.html\">law faculty blog<\/a> at U. Chicago). Anyway, here&#8217;s Carr:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Internet is changing the economics of creative work &#8211; or, to put it more broadly, the economics of culture &#8211; and it&#8217;s doing it in a way that may well restrict rather than expand our choices. Wikipedia might be a pale shadow of the Britannica, but because it&#8217;s created by amateurs rather than professionals, it&#8217;s free. And free trumps quality all the time. So what happens to those poor saps who write encyclopedias for a living? They wither and die. The same thing happens when blogs and other free on-line content go up against old-fashioned newspapers and magazines. Of course the mainstream media sees the blogosphere as a competitor. It <i>is<\/i> a competitor. And, given the economics of the competition, it may well turn out to be a superior competitor. The layoffs we&#8217;ve recently seen at major newspapers may just be the beginning, and those layoffs should be cause not for self-satisfied snickering but for despair. Implicit in the ecstatic visions of Web 2.0 is the hegemony of the amateur. I for one can&#8217;t imagine anything more frightening.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He then has a nice <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roughtype.com\/archives\/2005\/10\/more_on_wikiped.php\">follow-up<\/a> in which he republishes a letter from an administrator at Wikipedia, which responds to the above.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Encyclopedia Britannica is an amazing work. It&#8217;s of consistent high quality, it&#8217;s one of the great books in the English language and it&#8217;s doomed. Brilliant but pricey has difficulty competing economically with free and apparently adequate&#8230;.<br \/>\n&#8230;So if we want a good encyclopedia in ten years, it&#8217;s going to have to be a good Wikipedia. So those who care about getting a good encyclopedia are going to have to work out how to make Wikipedia better, or there won&#8217;t be anything.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let&#8217;s discuss.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nicholas Carr, who writes about business and technology and formerly was an editor of the Harvard Business Review, has published an interesting though problematic piece on &#8220;the amorality of web 2.0&#8221;. 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