{"id":1087,"date":"2007-10-17T13:32:23","date_gmt":"2007-10-17T13:32:23","guid":{"rendered":"\/ifbookblog\/?p=1087"},"modified":"2007-10-17T13:32:23","modified_gmt":"2007-10-17T13:32:23","slug":"ted_nelsons_still_on_the_job","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/2007\/10\/17\/ted_nelsons_still_on_the_job\/","title":{"rendered":"ted nelson is still on the job"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a while since we&#8217;ve mentioned <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ted_Nelson\">Ted Nelson<\/a> on this blog. Ted Nelson came up with the idea of hypertext in 1963; since then, in his estimation, most of what&#8217;s happened in computer interfaces and the way we use electronic documents has been a colossal disappointment. This would be a presumptuous idea to have, but Nelson does have some claim to being a genius, and his analyses of what&#8217;s wrong with the way we use computers are cogent and worth taking seriously. If you have an hour, there&#8217;s a worthwhile video of him presenting the basics of his ideas at Google at <a href=\"http:\/\/video.google.com\/videoplay?docid=-8329031368429444452\">GoogleVideo<\/a>. There&#8217;s an even better (if longer) <a href=\"http:\/\/webcast.oii.ox.ac.uk\/?view=Webcast&#038;ID=20051121_112\">presentation<\/a> of a talk he gave at Oxford in 2005, where he holds forth on the history of science and technology, why the systems that win out aren&#8217;t necessarily the best ones, and what&#8217;s wrong with the standard metaphors of cut, copy, and paste as used on computers since 1984. Nelson&#8217;s a computer scientist, but he&#8217;s talking about issues that increasingly affect everyone in today&#8217;s world. Viewing both&nbsp;&ndash; especially in the first, where his audience is an unenthusiastic group of Google engineers&nbsp;&ndash; it&#8217;s hard not to feel some sympathy for him as a romantic figure. His view of technology bears a certain similarity with the view of American history laid out in Thomas Pynchon&#8217;s <i>Mason &#038; Dixon<\/i>: that of vast potential squandered in the name of power and the market.<br \/>\nAs I&#8217;ve argued <a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/2005\/10\/ted_nelson_the_ideologies_of_d.html\">before<\/a>, Ted Nelson&#8217;s ideas are essential to engage with if we&#8217;re thinking seriously about how we compose and read using computers. His central thesis (which is strangely echoed by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.futureofthebook.com\">Gary Frost<\/a>&#8216;s comments on this blog) is that from Xerox PARC on, electronic documents have been designed to mimic their paper antecedents. In Nelson&#8217;s view, this is where everything went wrong: electronic documents could and should behave entirely differently from paper ones. Since 1960, Nelson&#8217;s been attempting to remedy this problem by creating a replacement for the World Wide Web which he calls <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Project_Xanadu\">Project Xanadu<\/a>. In 1995, <i>Wired<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/wired-vig.wired.com\/wired\/archive\/3.06\/xanadu.html\">termed it<\/a> the &#8220;longest-running vaporware story in the history of the computer industry&#8221;. Twelve years later, Project Xanadu isn&#8217;t much closer to replacing the web, but it&#8217;s somewhat less vaporware: Nelson&#8217;s group has released <a href=\"http:\/\/xanarama.net\/\">Xanadu Space<\/a>, Windows-only software that lets you create primitive transcluded documents. We unfortunately don&#8217;t have a PC in the office to try it out on, but you can see Nelson running it in the Google video, and there are intriguing screenshots:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/4dox4-Loops%2CTRUNC.html\" onclick=\"window.open('\/blog\/archives\/4dox4-Loops%2CTRUNC.html','popup','width=720,height=600,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"4dox4-Loops,TRUNC.SMALL.jpg\" src=\"\/blog\/archives\/4dox4-Loops%2CTRUNC.SMALL.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-I_WillNotLieBelow.html\" onclick=\"window.open('\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-I_WillNotLieBelow.html','popup','width=1000,height=444,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"fwDemoOrigins-I_WillNotLieBelow.SMALL.jpg\" src=\"\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-I_WillNotLieBelow.SMALL.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"266\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\"><a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-panorama2.html\" onclick=\"window.open('\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-panorama2.html','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"fwDemoOrigins-panorama2SMALL.jpg\" src=\"\/blog\/archives\/fwDemoOrigins-panorama2SMALL.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"\/blog\/archives\/xusp-LineOfFire.html\" onclick=\"window.open('\/blog\/archives\/xusp-LineOfFire.html','popup','width=748,height=544,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"xusp-LineOfFire.SMALL.jpg\" src=\"\/blog\/archives\/xusp-LineOfFire.SMALL.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s more information <a href=\"http:\/\/xanadu.com\/XanaduSpace\/btf.htm\">here<\/a>; I&#8217;d be curious to hear how well it actually works.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a while since we&#8217;ve mentioned Ted Nelson on this blog. Ted Nelson came up with the idea of hypertext in 1963; since then, in his estimation, most of what&#8217;s happened in computer interfaces and the way we use electronic documents has been a colossal disappointment. This would be a presumptuous idea to have, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[850,1825,1888,2047,2048],"tags":[3267,3468,3482,3518,3519],"class_list":["post-1087","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hypertext","category-tednelson","category-transclusion","category-xanadu","category-xanaduspace","tag-hypertext","tag-tednelson","tag-transclusion","tag-xanadu","tag-xanaduspace"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1087","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1087"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1087\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1087"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1087"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/futureofthebook.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1087"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}